This episode of The Five Count featured an exclusive interview with musicians Jimmy Bower & Pat Bruders. Jimmy and Pat are best known as members of the band Down. Jimmy also played for bands like Crowbar, Superjoint Ritual, Eyehategod and Corrosion of Conformity. Pat has played with bands like Crowbar and Goatwhore. During the show they discussed the longevity of Down, recording with King Diamond, and the new Down album V. Get your copy today!

During the rest of the show we tried to figure out how to get rich making YouTube shorts, Ton told a story about an old woman who used to sell him donuts and cigarettes, and we spoke with Daniel Bukszpan, author of the book Heavy Metal’s Big Four: How Metallica, Megadeth, Anthrax and Slayer Reshaped Music. Get your copy now!